here's a good example - 'last time i blinked i was okay' pulled from a tape literally labelled 'scratchy demos 1998'. i'm fairly sure rich did most of this, using a cassette 4-track and the pzm mic - i'm not sure what i used for my vocals, but i think the drums (through an amp), guitar and bass went through it. the 'proper' recording - released on data in a hurry - is on spotify